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Very very cramped engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I really did not explain ... my negative In reply to spitfirebill: I added that factor due to the fact that when I had to find a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go via every one in every junkyard in South Jersey to locate one that wasn't sludged up truly badly.
Bernie: Which is a better van, while we're going to speak concerning a couple of concerns of these vans, yet I I'm plainly not going to come out and state one is far better than the various other. Bernie: Well, they're essentially the exact same car.
Mark: So, well, allow's begin with engines after that. Allow's speak regarding engine and in fact just to specify that the design years, we're going to begin from 2000 and up, you know, I suggest, these vans have actually been around for a long time.
And, you understand, for a version of a Chevy van has been around considering that, you recognize, around that time too. We're not going to get back into, right into the earlier stuff. Since 2000, I indicate, Ford's, you can get these with V6 engines or V8s. V8s are far more popular and I wouldn't actually recommend a V6 engine.
There's a whole lot of concerns with these engines. In the earlier 2000 trigger plugs with blow to these engines, due to the fact that they didn't have adequate threading in the trigger plug, which created problems.
So if you're acquiring anything from probably 08 and more recent, you're not mosting likely to have that type of stimulate plug problems. Various other locations though, with the Fords that we see, intake manifolds will certainly leakage, they'll establish coolant leaks. It's a plastic manifold normally you need to replace the whole point.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I need to claim in their favour, due to the fact that I'm speaking about issues, it's an extra advanced engine. Expenses cam, so you're obtaining even more power and performance out of the engine than you would certainly on a Chevy, which is a simpler layout with press rods.
They're just truly quite great, sturdy, strong engines. You know, being a van, naturally, you understand, doing any kind of service on them is more difficult due to the fact that you've reached remove that cover and enter servicing in odd means. Points like spark plugs last an awful lengthy time, so they do not require to be replaced very frequently.
Mark: Can you purchase these vans with diesel motor? Bernie: You can and we do service a few of them. I can't think about if we've ever done a Chevy, however Chevy, they're available from 2006 to 16 with a Duramax diesel. The Fords have had diesels in them for a very long time, like back before the 2000 design year.
You recognize, that's still offered. I would not advise a diesel unless you're transporting incredibly heavy loads. Diesels need to be functioned. That's really the lower line with a diesel. If you're a say, I do not understand, I'm simply going to say a plumbing technician and you have actually obtained like a lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're hauling a trailer behind it, that would be a really excellent use of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it appears like the diesels are, they seem to have less problems in vans than they do in the vehicles. Most likely since they aren't worked so hard, but when things take place, they're truly expensive to repair. We've obtained a lot of videos and details concerning diesels, especially the Fords.
You really need to think twice regarding obtaining a diesel in a van. That's my suggestion. Mark: Yeah, so suitable for objective, make certain that you're suitable the engine that you're purchasing for the objective that you're endeavouring to accomplish. Bernie: Yeah, precisely. And I will state, Chevy is virtually restricted to V8 engines, however Ford has a V 10 engine too, which is an impressive gas guzzling engine.
If you're, and once again, we're just chatting regarding kind of a directly, routine freight van right here. The diesel most definitely isn't the very best option. Consider your objective, your use, just how much weight you're transporting and that'll assist you decide. Mark: What concerning the transmission and the remainder of the drive train? Bernie: They're quite a lot equal.
Something that we haven't spoken about below is what type of van. These vans are, and it depends upon what model, they're offered ever before from half bunch to one ton framework and really a few of the exploded view vans are in fact much more resilient, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for claim the Fords.
Generally the drive trains, you understand, I locate them to be rather much equivalent. Mark: So allow's talk concerning guiding and suspension. Exactly how do they contrast? Bernie: You understand, I'm going to provide the side to Ford on this set. And the reason for Ford is that it's a little easier.
There's less steering linkage entailed in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, yet it appears, and the Chevy's possibly last a bit longer than the Fords, however the, you understand, the steering linkage is much less complicated, so there's much less parts and less products to put on out.
The trip in a Ford is most likely a bit more vehicle like yet I do not know if you 'd in fact ever truly observed a distinction in between both. It feels like their components are a little harder on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What concerning brakes? Bernie: Brakes are practically the same, but I will say that it looks like with Fords, the way they develop their brake calipers, that they have a tendency to need to be changed almost every time you do a brake job.
Somehow, they seem to last for one brake job. And afterwards a great deal of times we take the brakes off and state, Oh, the dirt boots torn, and so the caliper requires to be changed. I think on a Ford and you can expect to spend a bit even more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm mosting likely to swerve back prior to the 2000 design years, there were some Chevy vans that had really poor doors. I suggest, the gliding doors were crap, you understand, truly terribly constructed. Actually, I would say that if you are also considering something older, it looks like Chevy and GMC vans actually and their trucks as a whole actually took a jump ahead in quality around the 2000 design year, since there was a lot of things where the brakes for instance would certainly not last very long whatsoever.
Yet if we're taking a look at the 2000 newer, I indicate, I 'd say they're both possibly virtually matching in top quality, fit and surface, you recognize, a few of the traveler vans, naturally we'll have nicer visits than the freight vans. Yet I can not say that one of them stands apart to me a bit more than the various other.
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